Rudder retaining clip?
1st August 2014 at 5:23pm #1155
I was wondering what type of retaining clip or other device OK sailors are fiiting to their tansoms? I notcied in “Completely OK” one sailor is using either a plastic tie or small piece of cord attaching the tiller to the uppermost gudgeon. I have also seen a small hole drilled in the gudgeon pintel and a split pin passed through it. I really like this idea as it is light weight compact and very simple. The split pin is then tied to a piece of cord to the base of the gudgeon pintel.
Have most people stuck with the tranditional retaining clip and the extra screw holes in the transom it requires or are there other solutions in practice.
Martin Ward1st August 2014 at 10:21pm #7557Bob BourneParticipant
From (bitter) experience, a split pit though a pintle will eventually bend or distort enough in use to make its removal impossible, with embarrasing results!
Many people now use a piece of string through the transom fitting (top or bottom), and around the tiller – crude but effective.
Personally I prefer the transom clip, it’s simple, can’t be dropped over the side, and if fitted correctly works fine.
Bob2nd August 2014 at 10:23am #7558
I thought about using a split ring throught the hole drilled in the pintel but this may also distort. May be a collar around the pintal with the spilt pin passing through both the pintal and that collar would stop distortion but this is making a sinple solution quite difficult. I guess that a piece of thin shock cord around the tiller and the top fitting on the transom is the answer as I do not want to drill additional holes in the transom.
May be someone has an alternative suggestion?
Martin Ward4th August 2014 at 2:23pm #7559andyt15064Participant
Shock cord would be useless as any stretching and the rudder comes off. I used a stainless steel clip for years which worked fine but leaves two small screw holes in your transom. I now use a piece of cord attached to the top pintle which I tie over the top of the tiller. Virtually everyone now uses this system.
Andy4th August 2014 at 3:51pm #7560FinnParticipant
Shock cord as you describe will last about 2hrs before wearing through – I’ve tried it.
I use a piece of control line outer with the shock cord threaded down the middle and a plastic hook on the end, through the top pintel and over the tiller. The hook is a little more reliable than my knots. :oops:4th August 2014 at 7:29pm #7561
Thanks for the replies.
It sounds like tying the rudder on is the way to go. I am a little confused about whether there would be enough stretch in the retaining cord to allow the rudder to move freely. I will try some experiments and see what happens.
Martin Ward5th August 2014 at 8:46am #7562FinnParticipant
The cord is directly above the pivot so little to no stretch is required for the rudder to go through its motions.5th August 2014 at 11:26am #7563andyt15064Participant
Going through its motions – is that a medical term?7th August 2014 at 2:51pm #7564GregParticipant
I use a ronstan ring
I have it attached to my tiller with thin shock cord just long enough to hold it vertical once it is through the hole in the pintle on the boat. On mine it goes through the bottom one. By keeping it vertical it can’t hit the rudder and so never bends and can never fall out. It is also very safe and easy to put in and take out.
I used to have the retaining clip on the transom or even on the rudder but always found it awkward and it liked to remove bits of my fingers as well.
Greg9th August 2014 at 10:14am #7565
An interesting idea, I have looked up this ring on the webpage you have supplied in your post. I may try this method or I may run a cord up through the both the fittings on the transom and loop it around the tiller. I could use a small alluminium backed plate under the lower transom fitting and some sort of clip around the tiller and back on to the line.
I will just try and see what works.
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