starting and stopping with a fixed rudder
19th April 2016 at 11:49am #1362stevecParticipant
I hope someone can advise me how to cope with a fixed rudder when launching off a shallow shelving beach in onshore wind! I’ve been sailing for years but in boats with lifting rudders, mainly 2-man, but last Sunday was my first sea venture with the OK with a fixed rudder(it’s all I have). I managed with the help of another crew who was willing to stand up to his armpits (he was quite short) in the cold Thames Estuary while I fumbled around with the boat bouncing around, eventually getting both parts connected. I’m quite capable of sailing 2-sail boats with no rudder but not the OK so far so recovering with no rudder is also a challenge! Is there a better way that others have found that I couldn’t think of?19th April 2016 at 12:12pm #8754andyt15064Participant
After Hunstanton last year when we had the same problem I bought a smart lifting rudder from Alex Scoles which I’ve been using ever since – so much easier getting afloat because you can tie it on before you even launch and don’t have to take it off when coming in. The lifting rudder weighs the same as a fixed rudder. There is no slop in the blade.
You can put a fixed rudder on the top pintle while you sail off a beach but it almost always bends the top pintle on the boat which never really recovers – I would advise against doing this.
Andy19th April 2016 at 2:37pm #8755stevecParticipant
Thanks Andy for your prompt reply. More expense!19th April 2016 at 4:09pm #8756burtParticipant
a bit of board down and take the mainsheet off the boom while standing up means you can probably get just about deep enough to put the rudder on but its a good spectator sport most of the time ha21st April 2016 at 6:29pm #8757robboParticipant
my friend who regularly sails up in wales tells me you need to be able to sail a considerable distance after launching without a rudder at Pwllheli . I struggle to get in the boat off a jetty ! . my favourite trick is to cast off the bow -it turns away – all I can grab is the outer end of the boom – so it drags me down the jetty like someone being dragged around the park by a big dog. I need to practise this from ‘shore to ship. bit when no one is looking – But I think I might get a lifty up rudder for the nationals !!21st April 2016 at 7:59pm #8758Paul CraigParticipant
It worried the hell out of me as I sail at a club which has a relatively narrow launching area which is usually the lee shore. Having sailed all manner of boats including 49ers there, I know there is always a way but the fixed rudder did concern me.
Burt is right though, with the board 1/4 down you can jump into the boat, grab the falls of the main and using heel and mainsheet you can get a good 10-20ft away from the shallows and then put the rudder on. I dont even bother with the top pintle trick, just leave the rudder in the boat.
For me getting back in is always the worry, but with the board up leeward heel and the main out, you can slide in nicely.
I just need my boat back now to put all my advice into practice. :roll:
[attachment=0:3la0lgon] decks.jpg [/attachment:3la0lgon]24th April 2016 at 1:14pm #8759KenParticipant
Just placed my order with Alex Scholes for a new lifting rudder. I have decided after years of panic launching and recovering the time has come to finally be in control.24th April 2016 at 6:12pm #8760andyt15064Participant
You won’t regret it. Made me wonder why I didn’t get one years ago. Well actually I did because my first OK (K860) in 1968 has a lifting rudder but it was a bit wobbly – unlike Alex’s new super duper version. Can I make it to 2018 for my 50th anniversary of sailing OKs continuously all that time?24th April 2016 at 6:50pm #8761KenParticipant
I am sure you will make your 50th Andy. I do think we should have a special open meeting to celebrate. I heard what you told me about your lifting Rudder and thought it sounded sensible. Having bought a new boat and without a spare Rudder it was a no brainier not to place an order with Alex. I know I will not regret it. Ken..
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